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By: Eoin

Eoin — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:16:19 +0000

Ah, but Neil-o, it’s not like the film was being marketed as an athiesm film, not even remotely. Only those clued into the Catholic League’s denouncements would really know about that.

And on a side-note, being an athiest isn’t about being hopeless. It’s about placing all your energy and belief into this life, the only life we can be certain about, and appreciating it to the fullest extent possible. The His Dark Materials novels, despite the outcome, ends on a very beautiful note.

By: niel-0

niel-0 — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:39:08 +0000

The reason the movie is failing and will bomb is pretty simple: the message of atheism is hopelessness, and during the Christmas season everyone wants to believe in something. The marketing team would have done better to release it in the dead of winter, with all of the holiday cheer gone; perhaps the cold and empty atheistic message would have come across a bit more effectively.

By: David Brown

David Brown — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:16:33 +0000

If my quote is incorrect, I would concede your point.

By: David Brown

David Brown — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:30:00 +0000

Pullman said that not me. I just repeated what he said.

By: eoin o'faolain

eoin o'faolain — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:17:53 +0000

No, it’s not. You’re the one saying that Pullman’s book’s purpose is to promote athiesm. I am saying that it is not. Let me quote him: “As for the atheism, it doesnâ€™t matter to me whether people believe in God or not, so Iâ€™m not promoting anything of that sort,”.

By: David Brown

David Brown — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:07:03 +0000

Your argument is with Pullman not with me

By: eoin o'faolain

eoin o'faolain — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:47:24 +0000

If that was his sole purpose, then surely he would have written a philosophical text. That’s like saying the Naria books’ purpose is to promote Christianity. Pullman is trying to tell a story, it’s as simple as that. Yes, his story has elements of things he believes in, but all stories have that.

By: David Brown

David Brown — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:04:45 +0000

The purported purpose according to the author of the books is to promote atheism.

By: eoin o'faolain

eoin o'faolain — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:31:16 +0000

Good point Michael- I think it is unfair to reduce this movie to just a simple attempt to promote athiesm. This is a fantasy story…. there are of course undercurrents of anti-religious-establishments. But they are not told in a childish way. They do of course indirectly accuse religion of limiting our personal freedom and expression- something which is hard to deny, you must agree, being a student of philosophy and religion. But fear not, a child who reads these books are not going to suddenly turn athiest and threaten to murder anyone from the relgiious community.

The books/films may given a slight voice of athiesm, but is that such a problem? Shouldn’t athiesm have a voice as much as religion does? Nobody criticises religion for dogmatically shoving its ideas down children’s throats, and the books and films don’t even come close to that.

By: Michael Llaneza

Michael Llaneza — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:51:26 +0000

“purported purpose”

Purported by whom exactly ?

By: David Brown

David Brown — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:09:28 +0000

I am not a Catholic and I am certainly no fan of the Catholic church; but I chose not to pay money for a film based on a one of three books whose purported purpose is to sell atheism to our children. As a student of philosophy and religion I am perfectly okay with people making informed judgments concerning their religion, philosophy or epistemic system. What I don’t like is someone trying to subvert this process. Children who view this watered-down, benign movie will want to buy and read the more potent books.

By: Paul B

Paul B — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:29:09 +0000

Nice entry Eion Stumbled it

By: eoin

eoin — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:17:56 +0000

Thanks for the lesson, Moriarty!

In the UK the book was called Northern Lights, but the film is called The Golden Compass. I guess New Line thought people may associate it with Lord of the Rings in a positive way. They were wrong.

By: moriarty

moriarty — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:11:23 +0000

“I think the book â€œNorthern Lightsâ€ (as it is called outside the USâ€¦did they change the movie name over there, too?)”

In Spain is called the same (in spanish obviously XD) The Book: “Las luces del Norte”. The movie: “La brÃºjula dorada”.

*Free spanish lessons in Screenhead…XD