kuzuriconUltra special treat for you today, folks–I’ve got an interview here with the ORIGINAL chair and founder of Kuzuricon, Joe Wall.  And from what he’s told us, he’s got a LOT to talk about concerning plenty of behind the scenes drama at the recently-launched anime convention.  So settle in for a treat and brace yourselves as we go five questions with Joe Wall.

1. Let’s start off with some background.  Who are you in relation to Kuzuricon?

I am the original chair.  I am also the cons founder.  I started “Project Con” back in July of 08.  I wanted to see a con that wasn’t just about Anime, but about gaming as well.  So I hung fliers and orginized the business.  What I didn’t realize is what kind of power I was giving these people by letting them sign the articles of incorporation.  It was my intent to give them power by policy, but not by law. At this time I don’t do anything for Kuzuricon as they have removed me from my position.

2. What is your actual affiliation to Kuzuricon?  Are you its original founder?

See the previous question, I answered in that, that I am the original founder.

3. Give us some background on the “takeover” you describe throughout your blog.

Well, this group of friends that currently run the con as we speak, were all part of a group called Otakazoo.  I don’t know if that’s in any relation to the fact they drove off anyone that wasn’t in their group, but it does explain why they chose to go with Samantha Nicles artwork instead of another artist’s (I’ll just say Lisa for now).  It appears they kept Cody around, because he does not have an important role in the con.  I can show you some of Lisa’s artwork if you wish to see it.  They basically claimed I was power tripping and playing favortism, which I never was.  They constantly refused to ask me any questions or work with me on anything and constantly acted on their own.

4.  Could you explain the “Kuzuricon Abridged” comic you posted here on your With Dint page’s blog? It’s hilarious but I don’t understand much of the references.

Frame 1:  Basically me introducing myself to the staff of Kuzuricon.  I’m explaining that I’m trying to start a con, even though I know how and what to expect, I don’t have any actual experience doing this.

Frame 2: This is just me announcing to the staff our planned date to have the con. Originally we were going to have it a week before in the Radisson of Kalamazoo. But something happened to where they were no longer contacting us.

Frame 3: This is explaining how things were interfering with me personally with the con.  The staff constantly fighting (Mostly rooted from Samantha Nicles) How I had just taken on a new job in Grand Rapids that was full time and required my full attention (software engineer and on call for Diamond Phoenix).  How even though with this new job, the lack of funding to start things was an issue.  We tried many attempts for sponsorships and other things, but I can only assume I and Cody were the only two people working on that. Hotel troubles, as explained we originally wanted the Radisson, but they wanted WAY to much for use of the hotel.

Frame 4: Basically Sam starting to be pugnacious towards me, and some being, “Why are we doing this” but at the same time supporting her.  This frame probably is mostly my speculation of what she was thinking. Obviously replace, “Flying the plane” with “running the con”.

Frame 5: This frame is pretty self explanatory.

Frame 6: the bar across the door, “Fire the staff” is to show how in attempts to battle their acting on their own. I scheduled two meetings that they chose not make, and because they didn’t, by policy of or con they were fired.  Using their own, “Acting on their own” attitude against them.  But what is not explained is why I did this to fire them.  Well, they were fighting constantly over nothing, not showing any kind of progress towards the con, constantly acting on their own, and one thing samantha was noted for, belittling my position to nothing.  Now to explain, “Belittling my position to nothing.”: I was the con chair.  As con chair our constitution, (That I wrote….) stated, “This individual is usually M.C. and is president of all operations. Oversees all projects, trains staff as needed, and gives suggestions as needed.”  She constantly misquoted this and only used, “Oversees all projects” to make everyone else think that I had a lesser role in the con.  And her definition of “Overseeing” was only that of a security guard… As in she explained it, that I was to watch the staff and report to the e-board of any problems I witness.  This is obviously not what the position entailed and not what I wrote this to mean.  So they were fired, and for about 2 weeks, everything was going good, as me and Rachel noted, more work was accomplished on the con than they did in 6 months.

Frame 7: Everything was going smoothly until I got a call from a lawyer, who I still wonder if he is a legitimate lawyer, calls and states that I need to cease and desist.  And tells me I need to give all my materials involving Kuzuricon to who he claimed was the, “Current staff” which is the staff that was fired.  He claimed that since they all signed the articles of incorporation, they had legal right to the con. Which is true and probably where I shot myself in the foot.

Frame 8: This is me basically looking back at it and reflecting how much I hate mediocrity.  I figured all or nothing. If these are going to be dead weights fire them and try to do it better, or have them fire me (I did threaten to quit on a few occasions because of how poor of a job they were doing.)  But it’s also to show that they have no idea what the hell they are doing, and thus why the con was pretty bad from what I could tell.

Now another rumor that’s going around is I was fired for being a hard ass, well that hardly makes sense, seeming it’s my job as a chair to make sure they’re doing their jobs.  And yet another rumor that’s going around is I was fired for dating Rachel, who was the artist alley coordinator.  And is part of the favoritism crap they were spewing.  I offered to help all of the staff, but they never asked me any questions.  Rachel, Cody, and pretty much anyone on the outside of that collective group of friends, were there few who actually asked me to help them. And I did.  There was Brian on the occasion, but his job wasn’t really that difficult.

5.  Will you be involved in the production of Kuzuricon 2010 in any way?

Maybe, If it even happens, I’d imagine the hotel is pretty angry at them, as well as a few other people.  But I won’t be doing anything unless they specifically want me involved.  I was thinking web admin… Since Brian has this spelling and grammar issue…  but only if I was invited back.  I did attend the con has a, “Bury the hatchet” move.  But I don’t foresee any of them planning to interact with me in the future.

And so, there you have it.  Seems that Kuzuricon was actually a gigantic hotbed of drama.  I’ve actually extended a five-question set to Kuzuricon press rep Melissa Caswell to see if we can get some rebuttal on this.  More on that when–if–it develops.

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4 Comments so far »
  1.  

    Natale Liane said

    October 21 2009 @ 3:50 pm

    I was at that con and I had a lot of fun and so did all my friends… from the sounds of it your just bitter. I don’t think firing everyone when you don’t get along is the right thing to do… but whatever, I liked all the staff they were nice and actually talked to us attendees and the con didn’t do badly it was just small but from what I have seen form other first year cons is that’s normal…. but I know there had to be at least 200 people there so there doing a lot better than most cons were there first… I talked to a few of the people that were running the con and said that they want a con that is ran by a group not an omnipotent god like dragon con, akon, ACen and the others but a con that’s different I just don’t see why you are angry that they fired you or what ever but it was okay for you to fire them..? people are not data on a computer if you don’t like them you cant just instantly delete them.. as a con goer I love kuzuri con and I and a lot more of my friends will be attending next year. last note, it was a really fun con and it doesn’t matter what happened in the past they were really nice to the attendees and put on a great con so why does it matter if they had some troubles in the past in this day and age it’s a miracle that they even pulled it off!

    GC guys GreatCon!

  2.  

    John Lee Johnson said

    October 29 2009 @ 1:50 am

    There are two sides to every story, and so far, only Mr. Joe Wall has been interviewed on this matter. I can personally refute every factual error, omission and negative thing Mr. Wall has said about us. So can every other staff member. I won’t go into details here because it is inappropriate.

    If Mr. Wall wants to be a part of Kuzuricon 2010, he needs to stop bad-mouthing the staff and bad mouthing the convention. He also needs to start attending meetings. We have not seen or heard from him since the vote to remove him from his former position. We also have reliable reports from many convention attendees who said that they we’re approached by Mr. Wall during the con, and that they we’re told bad things about this convention and staff. We have also documented every post Mr. Wall has made on various boards telling people not to go to Kuzuricon for various reasons. Mr. Wall’s behavior since his dismissal from Con-Chair is unprofessional and skirting on the verge of slander and libel.

    I completely agree with the previous commentator Natale Liane and her assessment of the situation. You really should interview Kuzuricon members other than Mr. Wall.

    As was previously stated in our public announcement, we did nothing in appropriate and acted perfectly in accordance with our constitution and bylaws which were signed and agreed to by all of us, including Mr. Wall at the beginning of Project Con.

    It was Mr. Wall who violated his own bylaws on several documented occasions, as well as having acted inappropriate towards several staff members, many of which are no longer with us.

    I am willing to debate anything Mr. Wall has to say. He’s not the victim he makes himself out to be.

  3.  

    Steve Anderson said

    October 30 2009 @ 1:37 pm

    John–interestingly enough, an interview offer, along with questions, was dispatched to Kuzuricon press rep Melissa Caswell on October 15th. She has, as yet, not responded to same. Such is mentioned in the article itself. Or did you not read that far down?

  4.  

    Joe Wall said

    November 16 2009 @ 10:07 pm

    Natalie, you’re taking everything I said out of proportion. It was advised to me to fire them based on their neglect. I didn’t want to have to do it, but when they were already acting on their own and not keeping me informed, what other choice do I have? Their actions in any corporation would be considered professional misconduct. There were a lot of issues with policy as well, one of the reasons they got the lawyer involved.

    Now with that said, I am not angry. I don’t know where you get that idea. This reporter contacted me questioning who I was, I just simply answered his questions. I have my opinions of what went wrong, and do feel it could have been a much better con, had they worked harder.

    As I said in a previous comment on the last article to this, I am glad to see the con happened, but again, feel it could have been much better. As for bad mouthing, I feel I’m entitled to my opinion of what happened. It’s hard to perceive it any other way.

    And note this, they did not fire me because I fired them. They had their reasons before I did this. I’m yet to get their reasoning to why this happened, but quite frankly, I don’t care.

    So understand that I am not angry, and that is why I pulled the, “Bury the hatchet” move in the first place.

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