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	<description>So much in love with movies, it&#039;s Awesome!</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in love with you for this line:

&quot;Coppolla’s soundtrack is an attempt to claim that Marie Antoinette was the first “modern” teen, which is a typical example of Generation X’s inability to engage with history and customs outside their navel-gazing bubble of cynicism.&quot;

Pay attention, fans of the film. Fine if you like it, but understand this is a major reason why people don&#039;t. It&#039;s not the anachronistic use of music per se, it&#039;s what she&#039;s saying with it. Whether or not you feel the music aesthetically suits the film is going to be pretty subjective (I personally found it clumsy, though I too love most of the music individually), but when someone offers up a fantastic, succinct analysis like the above, it should at least provoke thought and prompt debate at a similarly insightful level. If it doesn&#039;t, I&#039;m afraid YOU&#039;RE the ones missing out on something, not someone who is not swayed by any supposed charms this film holds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in love with you for this line:</p>
<p>&#8220;Coppolla’s soundtrack is an attempt to claim that Marie Antoinette was the first “modern” teen, which is a typical example of Generation X’s inability to engage with history and customs outside their navel-gazing bubble of cynicism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pay attention, fans of the film. Fine if you like it, but understand this is a major reason why people don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s not the anachronistic use of music per se, it&#8217;s what she&#8217;s saying with it. Whether or not you feel the music aesthetically suits the film is going to be pretty subjective (I personally found it clumsy, though I too love most of the music individually), but when someone offers up a fantastic, succinct analysis like the above, it should at least provoke thought and prompt debate at a similarly insightful level. If it doesn&#8217;t, I&#8217;m afraid YOU&#8217;RE the ones missing out on something, not someone who is not swayed by any supposed charms this film holds.</p>
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		<title>By: eoin ofaolain</title>
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		<dc:creator>eoin ofaolain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for finding that info, Luke. Although it&#039;s kind of ironic, as their music turned up in the Life Aquatic two years later!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for finding that info, Luke. Although it&#8217;s kind of ironic, as their music turned up in the Life Aquatic two years later!</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, should learn to google before I post, found under articles on their website:

&quot;i wasn&#039;t too happy with our presence in the movie,&quot; states georg holm, the band&#039;s bass player, hours before sigur ros mesmerised dublin audiences some weeks back. &quot;i didn&#039;t like the movie, either. i thought the track itself and how it was utilised worked really well, but the other songs on the soundtrack were a bit weird. i think it was cameron crowe doing his 10 favourite tracks and putting them into a film.

&quot;that said, it raised our profile in america, i don&#039;t regret that, but there are two sides to the story. i wouldn&#039;t do it again, i don&#039;t think. we&#039;d synchronise music to film, but it would have to be a movie i was particularly interested in.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, should learn to google before I post, found under articles on their website:</p>
<p>&#8220;i wasn&#8217;t too happy with our presence in the movie,&#8221; states georg holm, the band&#8217;s bass player, hours before sigur ros mesmerised dublin audiences some weeks back. &#8220;i didn&#8217;t like the movie, either. i thought the track itself and how it was utilised worked really well, but the other songs on the soundtrack were a bit weird. i think it was cameron crowe doing his 10 favourite tracks and putting them into a film.</p>
<p>&#8220;that said, it raised our profile in america, i don&#8217;t regret that, but there are two sides to the story. i wouldn&#8217;t do it again, i don&#8217;t think. we&#8217;d synchronise music to film, but it would have to be a movie i was particularly interested in.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s your source on the statement on Sigur Rós regretting their inclusion on the soundtrack? Just curious.</description>
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		<title>By: Decibelle Project</title>
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		<dc:creator>Decibelle Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that idea of the article was to illustrate how a good soundtrack doesn&#039;t always go hand-in-hand with a good film, as many people seem to think nowadays. Indeed, I have lost count of how many times I have heard people say stuff like &quot;Hey, check out this new film! It&#039;s got music by !&quot; - and I always find it weird that people judge a movie by just one of its components, most times without even having heard the soundtrack in question - the &quot;strength&quot; of the band/artist/composer&#039;s name seems to be enough.

Music and its proper use can truly make or break a film. In some cases, it is difficult to imagine a film without its music, eg. I can&#039;t think of &quot;Terminator&quot; without immediately imagining the metallic percussion and haunting music of Brad Fiedel&#039;s theme and &quot;Amelie&quot; owes much of her charm to Yann Tiersen&#039;s inspired score. It all comes down to personal preference, of course, but I think everyone has similar examples from film/music combinations they like.

However, like the article suggests, some filmmakers are trying to create such associations preemptively, by splicing together a &quot;cool&quot; soundtrack in the hopes that it will draw attention to their otherwise mediocre film. I wholeheartedly agree with Eoin O&#039;Faolain&#039;s take on the Sofia Coppola films and their soundtracks - while I like and respect the artists and the individual songs, their use in the films, as well as the films themselves, can be summed up in one word - &quot;pretentious&quot;.

If I had to point a finger at the original culprit who started this trend, my money would be on the Bond films. Back in the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s, it seemed that the most important things regarding the iconic spy&#039;s movies were a) who will be his female co-star (read &quot;Bond girl&quot;), and b) who sings the opening credits song. I remember how each and every Bond theme song became an instant hit right before the corresponding film&#039;s release, then faded into (justified, most of the time) obscurity immediately after. This is not absolute, of course - some Bond theme songs are classics, but others are totally forgettable (eg. &quot;Die Another Day&quot; by Madonna). Thankfully, things have taken a turn for the better with the Bond &quot;reset&quot; in Casino Royale.

Last but not least, I&#039;d like to mention Darren Aronofsky&#039;s &quot;?&quot; (Pi) as an example of a film soundtrack that is not only fab on its own, but it is also used to great effect in the movie. The soundtrack featured some of the best electronic music artists of the previous decade (Aphex Twin, Orbital, Massive Attack to name but a few) as well as original compositions by Clint Mansell (previously of Pop Will Eat Itself) and when played on its own, it&#039;s a fantastic collection of contemporary electronic music. In the film, it accentuates the timelessness of the images (contemporary setting shot in black &amp; white) and the confusion of the flawed genius that is the main character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that idea of the article was to illustrate how a good soundtrack doesn&#8217;t always go hand-in-hand with a good film, as many people seem to think nowadays. Indeed, I have lost count of how many times I have heard people say stuff like &#8220;Hey, check out this new film! It&#8217;s got music by !&#8221; &#8211; and I always find it weird that people judge a movie by just one of its components, most times without even having heard the soundtrack in question &#8211; the &#8220;strength&#8221; of the band/artist/composer&#8217;s name seems to be enough.</p>
<p>Music and its proper use can truly make or break a film. In some cases, it is difficult to imagine a film without its music, eg. I can&#8217;t think of &#8220;Terminator&#8221; without immediately imagining the metallic percussion and haunting music of Brad Fiedel&#8217;s theme and &#8220;Amelie&#8221; owes much of her charm to Yann Tiersen&#8217;s inspired score. It all comes down to personal preference, of course, but I think everyone has similar examples from film/music combinations they like.</p>
<p>However, like the article suggests, some filmmakers are trying to create such associations preemptively, by splicing together a &#8220;cool&#8221; soundtrack in the hopes that it will draw attention to their otherwise mediocre film. I wholeheartedly agree with Eoin O&#8217;Faolain&#8217;s take on the Sofia Coppola films and their soundtracks &#8211; while I like and respect the artists and the individual songs, their use in the films, as well as the films themselves, can be summed up in one word &#8211; &#8220;pretentious&#8221;.</p>
<p>If I had to point a finger at the original culprit who started this trend, my money would be on the Bond films. Back in the 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s, it seemed that the most important things regarding the iconic spy&#8217;s movies were a) who will be his female co-star (read &#8220;Bond girl&#8221;), and b) who sings the opening credits song. I remember how each and every Bond theme song became an instant hit right before the corresponding film&#8217;s release, then faded into (justified, most of the time) obscurity immediately after. This is not absolute, of course &#8211; some Bond theme songs are classics, but others are totally forgettable (eg. &#8220;Die Another Day&#8221; by Madonna). Thankfully, things have taken a turn for the better with the Bond &#8220;reset&#8221; in Casino Royale.</p>
<p>Last but not least, I&#8217;d like to mention Darren Aronofsky&#8217;s &#8220;?&#8221; (Pi) as an example of a film soundtrack that is not only fab on its own, but it is also used to great effect in the movie. The soundtrack featured some of the best electronic music artists of the previous decade (Aphex Twin, Orbital, Massive Attack to name but a few) as well as original compositions by Clint Mansell (previously of Pop Will Eat Itself) and when played on its own, it&#8217;s a fantastic collection of contemporary electronic music. In the film, it accentuates the timelessness of the images (contemporary setting shot in black &amp; white) and the confusion of the flawed genius that is the main character.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis santos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Streets of Fire, from 80´s decade has a great soundtrack and great songs....</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post got me looking through my cds to see what soundtracks I bothered to pick up.  Other than the ones that are great on both the movie and soundtrack front (American Graffiti, Swingers, Resevoir Dogs, etc.), I was trying to think where the Farrely Brothers movies would rank up there - Dumb and Dumber is an outstanding alt rock soundtrack, the movie is superb for what it shoots for, but would never be considered a &quot;great&quot; film.  Have the same reaction for Clueless.  Also would throw out Go, Eddie and the Cruisers and Reality Bites for so-so movies with solid soundtracks.  Honorable mention to Million Dollar Hotel, because I love the mood of the album but never saw the movie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post got me looking through my cds to see what soundtracks I bothered to pick up.  Other than the ones that are great on both the movie and soundtrack front (American Graffiti, Swingers, Resevoir Dogs, etc.), I was trying to think where the Farrely Brothers movies would rank up there &#8211; Dumb and Dumber is an outstanding alt rock soundtrack, the movie is superb for what it shoots for, but would never be considered a &#8220;great&#8221; film.  Have the same reaction for Clueless.  Also would throw out Go, Eddie and the Cruisers and Reality Bites for so-so movies with solid soundtracks.  Honorable mention to Million Dollar Hotel, because I love the mood of the album but never saw the movie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hardshe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hardshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a fucking idiot.</description>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above The Rim was an awful movie. But the Soundtrack to that movie was fantastic. That&#039;s when Death Row Records was good cause they had Dre producing the tracks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above The Rim was an awful movie. But the Soundtrack to that movie was fantastic. That&#8217;s when Death Row Records was good cause they had Dre producing the tracks.</p>
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		<title>By: jean-huy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jean-huy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about &quot;The Bodyguard&quot; with Whitney Houston &amp; Kevin Costner.  The movie was absolutely horrible, but the soundtrack, with tracks mostly sung by Houston who is, or at least, was great a great singer at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about &#8220;The Bodyguard&#8221; with Whitney Houston &amp; Kevin Costner.  The movie was absolutely horrible, but the soundtrack, with tracks mostly sung by Houston who is, or at least, was great a great singer at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: dickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>dickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t agree with you that Control, Lost In Translation, and Marie Antoinette should be on your list, Eoin. All three are very good in my opinion, and pair well with the music. Like Trainspotting, I think of those movies when I hear the music now, and it gives me the urge to watch them. 

You are dead on about Vanilla Sky and Platoon. I&#039;ve never seen Young Adam though, so you slide this time. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t agree with you that Control, Lost In Translation, and Marie Antoinette should be on your list, Eoin. All three are very good in my opinion, and pair well with the music. Like Trainspotting, I think of those movies when I hear the music now, and it gives me the urge to watch them. </p>
<p>You are dead on about Vanilla Sky and Platoon. I&#8217;ve never seen Young Adam though, so you slide this time. <img src='http://www.screenhead.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: david bordwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>david bordwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha oh dear. To the writer: stop where you are. Before you hurt yourself.</description>
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		<title>By: Sherlock Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherlock Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blues Brothers 2000 - great soundtrack - wretched movie. The soundtrack features the Stax Rhythm section, Paul Shaffer, Blue Lou Marini, Alan Rubin, Matt Guitar Murphy, Anton Fig, Tom Hall, Eric Clapton, BB King, James Brown, Wilson Pickett, Junior Wells, Lonnie Brooks, Steve Winwood, Isaac Hayes, Koko Taylor, Jonny Lang, Blues Traveller, Lou Rawls, Clarence Clemons, Bo Diddley, Dr John, and on and on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blues Brothers 2000 &#8211; great soundtrack &#8211; wretched movie. The soundtrack features the Stax Rhythm section, Paul Shaffer, Blue Lou Marini, Alan Rubin, Matt Guitar Murphy, Anton Fig, Tom Hall, Eric Clapton, BB King, James Brown, Wilson Pickett, Junior Wells, Lonnie Brooks, Steve Winwood, Isaac Hayes, Koko Taylor, Jonny Lang, Blues Traveller, Lou Rawls, Clarence Clemons, Bo Diddley, Dr John, and on and on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NONSENSE POOPIEPANTS!! ITS LINKS TIME! - There be Nonsense Here</title>
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		<dc:creator>NONSENSE POOPIEPANTS!! ITS LINKS TIME! - There be Nonsense Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5 soundstracks that were better than the movie (screenhead) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This unedited, confused piece irritated me. Oliver Stone and Sofia Coppola have consistently shown that they have a broad knowledge and understanding of music as used in their movies. 

I believe Lost in Translation to be one of the best movies of its time and appropriately popular with critics and audiences alike. Marie Antoinette was unfairly trashed largely because of its use of anachronistic dialogue and music - as if other period pieces have production teams which manage to go back in time and figure out exactly how things were back then. 

Comparing Platoon with Apocalypse Now in such a way makes it glaringly obvious how little the writer understands what he is talking about.

I will say that I have found Cameron Crowe&#039;s use of rock songs overbearing and inappropriate, but possibly least of all in Vanilla Sky - a film which received a good deal of flak from people who didn&#039;t like the original in the first place. I enjoyed it.

There must be dozens of Hollywood blockbuster clunkers with scores by luminary composers such as Howard Shore, Mark Kamen, Max Steiner, Dmitri Tomkin or Ernest Korngold which could have easily made for a more substantial, but possibly less interesting, list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This unedited, confused piece irritated me. Oliver Stone and Sofia Coppola have consistently shown that they have a broad knowledge and understanding of music as used in their movies. </p>
<p>I believe Lost in Translation to be one of the best movies of its time and appropriately popular with critics and audiences alike. Marie Antoinette was unfairly trashed largely because of its use of anachronistic dialogue and music &#8211; as if other period pieces have production teams which manage to go back in time and figure out exactly how things were back then. </p>
<p>Comparing Platoon with Apocalypse Now in such a way makes it glaringly obvious how little the writer understands what he is talking about.</p>
<p>I will say that I have found Cameron Crowe&#8217;s use of rock songs overbearing and inappropriate, but possibly least of all in Vanilla Sky &#8211; a film which received a good deal of flak from people who didn&#8217;t like the original in the first place. I enjoyed it.</p>
<p>There must be dozens of Hollywood blockbuster clunkers with scores by luminary composers such as Howard Shore, Mark Kamen, Max Steiner, Dmitri Tomkin or Ernest Korngold which could have easily made for a more substantial, but possibly less interesting, list.</p>
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